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Posted - 2016.04.28 11:56:34 -
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Sarah Flynt wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:I realize that CCP aims to nerf highsec freighter ganking, but do they intend to end it all-together? I have great news for you: bumping isn't required at all for freighter ganking. Have you tried freighter ganking?
What's that? You didn't?
That's what I thought 
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Posted - 2016.04.28 14:20:45 -
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Sarah Flynt wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Sarah Flynt wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:I realize that CCP aims to nerf highsec freighter ganking, but do they intend to end it all-together? I have great news for you: bumping isn't required at all for freighter ganking. Have you tried freighter ganking? What's that? You didn't? That's what I thought  Are you saying I'm wrong? You didn't answer my question (even though I already know its answer)
Freighter ganking without bumpers is feasible BUT It's nigh impossible if the dude is at his keyboard, for afk freighters, your only window is on the out - gate. Bumping is a tool to give gankers a bigger ganking window than a minute for afk pilots. it also lets them choose who and when they will strike (usually every 15-16 minutes as we all know)
Look at it this way: If bumping only works for 3 minutes, freighter ganks will be as rare as me dying. If there are no more freighter ganks, you lot will have nothing else to do (other than crying and waiting for a fleet to appear out of nowhere)
No freighter fleets = no AG Every nerf to ganking is also directly Nerf in anti-ganking (especially in this case) I can say with certainty that you guys won't follow solo gankers everywhere they go, hoping they undock to go shoot something.... you'll burn out faster than a house fire.
Think about it
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Posted - 2016.04.28 14:50:10 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:So every 2.75 minutes you need a suicide tackler to long point the freighter. That breaks warp and should start the timer over. So 5 or 6 tackle alts, assuming you need the full 15 minute cool down because 2 freighters you need to gank arrived at the same time.
Or does a point stop but not reset the counter? If it doesn't reset the counter, should anti-gankers start figuring out the counter mechanics so they could offer pre-counter warm up (or whatever term they wish to call it)? I don't think any details went out about the timer reset (if there's even one)
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Posted - 2016.04.28 15:28:23 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Why can't the fleet just be waiting with the bumper and start the bump immediately?
Is this a serious question? I call troll on this one
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Posted - 2016.04.28 20:20:15 -
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Albrecht Patrouette wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote: No freighter fleets = no AG Every nerf to ganking is also directly Nerf in anti-ganking (especially in this case) I can say with certainty that you guys won't follow solo gankers everywhere they go, hoping they undock to go shoot something.... you'll burn out faster than a house fire.
Think about it
How odd, since my cousin, Armand Patrouette, is a dedicated High Sec Militia pilot who does just that: pursues solo and small gang gankers and flies miner escort in those systems that those particular pilots frequent. So I can say with absolute certainty that your "I can say with certainty" is a major crock. Yes, the Patrouette clan gets involved with protecting freighters, but that's not the sum total of our anti-piracy/anti-ganking activities. Should your doomsday prediction come true and freighter ganking cease to exist (seriously, do you really believe that?) we'll still have plently to do with patrolling HighSec. There are also Patrouette gankers Your antipirate argument is invalid.
Can't wait to see how little time it'll take until you realize you can't save highsec by helping players who can't help themselves XD
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Posted - 2016.04.28 20:23:33 -
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It's basic combat triage: Save the living, and leave the dying to die.
By living, I talk about players at their keyboard. And the dying... afk peasants and botters
It's a beautiful saying don't you think?
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Posted - 2016.04.29 00:10:46 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The salt...
Gee, where there codies in here saying that this would not matter?
Oh well. I wish this game was the only place I was right when it comes to human nature. do you even post on topic? or is always "hhnnng lloookkk aatttt thhheee salallltttt *hyperventilates*"
Reporting for off-topic gibberish.
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Posted - 2016.04.29 11:41:14 -
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Stay on topic kids.. And @op, ISD usually comes quicker when you're the one wanting a cleanup
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Posted - 2016.04.29 12:55:14 -
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When bumping dies, AG will die with it. That will be gloriously hilarious 
You guys don't seem to realize that the only content you were getting (in the form of freighter ganking) is going to be way more rare than it was during loyal's era.
Look at most of the older ag with brains on their shoulders, they moved on and are probably having the time of their lives in Null, instead of failing at doing anything in highsec. Maybe you should focus on yourselves instead of saying that everything I say is salt, or instead of making of highsec a haven of bot-aspirancy.
I'll finish with this:
Dom Arkaral wrote:It's basic combat triage: Save the living, and leave the dying to die.
So in your eyes, if ganking is "dying", let it go 
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Posted - 2016.04.29 14:33:26 -
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Sarah Flynt wrote:@Dom Arkaral and Black Pedro: Anti-ganking members have been asking for a fix to bumping for a very long time, so don't try to use us as some kind of counter argument: it's BS. The channel wasn't created because of freighter ganking and it will certainly not die in case it will ever be removed (which is extremely unlikely and also not wanted by any of us). For a short summery of the motivation behind our channels, see here: http://astralservices.net/?Anti-gankChannels
Let's talk about freighter ganking entirely without bumpers first: You both claim unanimously that you deem it to be "nigh impossible" and yet space wizard HABEPHO and his merry band of space elves do it all the time. How can that possibly be? The reason is quite simple: they aren't outlaws (sec status below -5 for those who don't know what an outlaw is). They accept the fact that ganking in highsec has certain punishments apart from losing your ship and adapt accordingly by either paying the fee for clone soldier tags or ratting their sec status back up. And this is what you actually fear: that the intended consequences suddenly could have a meaning. Currently they're more of a joke for dedicated gank alts and very easy to overcome. To say it in the words of your own camp: "You want to have the cake and eat it too". But CCP doesn't even plan to remove bumping (yet). They plan to give you a 3 minute window and while there is nothing known about the concrete implementation, yet, I fully expect them to do what they usually do: take the easiest possible route and implement it in a way that the timer gets reset once the freighter gets pointed. So in the end I expect not much to change, apart from having a minor annoyance to deal with on your end. CCP implicitly admitting that bumping has become a problem is at least something, though. To answer your earlier question: I have a gank alt myself to take out CONCORD protected ganker alts and while I haven't ganked a freighter myself, I'm very well aware of how it works in detail. I've used him with sec status below -5 and thus can tell from own experience that the current consequences are a joke. I've degraded him to a cyno alt by now as I find ganking not terribly challenging. You're comparing apples to peaches. Your whole argument is as bs as ours
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Posted - 2016.05.03 18:02:12 -
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Gahh.. stupid cellphone Will make proper reply tonight
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Posted - 2016.05.03 22:43:19 -
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Okayyy here goes the bomb.
Can you tell me, how does RFF succeed on such a large scale?
I mean, they only failed 382 contract in 2015, despite completing 139 758? They also only lost 185 freighter in all areas of space (that's one freighter per 2 days) Can you tell me how I don't see them crying about CODE. or bumping?
Maybe they take precautions instead of crying rivers to CCP because you guys are idiots. They use every tool at their disposal to not die to CODE.
If only half of freighter pilots were as precautious.
Your arguments mean nothing if the biggest hauling company in New Eden only failed 0.27% of all their contracts.
Adapt or die
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Posted - 2016.05.05 01:34:19 -
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Sarah Flynt wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Can you tell me, how does RFF succeed on such a large scale?
I mean, they only failed 382 contract in 2015, despite completing 139 758? They also only lost 185 freighter in all areas of space (that's one freighter per 2 days) That's only highsec. Black Frog uses jump freighters. For a highly specialised group that "uses every tool at their disposal to not die to CODE." that number is actually quite high. 185 is the total of their losses (Red Frog, Black Frog and Blue Frog) otherwise they would have mentionned that 185 is for RFF only.
You're a speshul snowflake ain't ya?
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Posted - 2016.05.05 12:03:43 -
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Thanks for noticing I never owned any POCOs.. They don't seem viable enough to be worth the trouble
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Posted - 2016.05.05 12:05:25 -
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Sarah Flynt wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:185 is the total of their losses (Red Frog, Black Frog and Blue Frog) otherwise they would have mentionned that 185 is for RFF only. Look, it's really not that hard: Red Frog and Blue Frog are both highsec only and Black Frog only uses jump freighters outside of highsec. As there were no jump freighters reimbursed, where we indeed could not tell where they were lost, all of those T1 freighter losses must have been in highsec as none of their corps use T1 freighters outside of highsec. Who says they use t1 exclusively in HS? Logic would say so, but there are always more adventurous folks 
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Posted - 2016.05.05 15:11:32 -
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Sarah Flynt wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Sarah Flynt wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:185 is the total of their losses (Red Frog, Black Frog and Blue Frog) otherwise they would have mentionned that 185 is for RFF only. Look, it's really not that hard: Red Frog and Blue Frog are both highsec only and Black Frog only uses jump freighters outside of highsec. As there were no jump freighters reimbursed, where we indeed could not tell where they were lost, all of those T1 freighter losses must have been in highsec as none of their corps use T1 freighters outside of highsec. Who says they use t1 exclusively in HS? Logic would say so, but there are always more adventurous folks  White Frog Insurance only covers losses to ganks in continuous highsec (no highsec islands, no duels, no wardec losses) and only under certain conditions: https://sites.google.com/site/redfrogfreightmanual/conditions
The statistic you quoted is only about what White Frog Insurance reimbursed, not even about how many freighters they actually lost. My point of them still running efficiently even with CODE. still stands. There is no ccounter-argument to that, no matter how hard you try.
And since there is nothing left to argue about here, I can confirm once more that CODE. Always Wins 
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Posted - 2016.05.10 00:27:54 -
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John E Normus wrote:That hauling is a business and business is good.  Is that what you do nowadays? been awhile since I saw you gank something bigger than a diner 
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Posted - 2016.06.16 11:51:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Lan Wang wrote:code are crying a lot these days  They certainly are, they want to emulate their founder  Show me on the barge where His Holiness James 315 touched you 
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Posted - 2016.06.16 12:24:02 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Lan Wang wrote:code are crying a lot these days  Wow Lan. Did not think you get so upset about a wardec. You also probably know that I am a -10 char, so I don't care abut wars very much :-) why would i be upset? ill be upset if you dont bring the fight :) nevermind poppet we are all pirates you dont need to worry about being -10 in lowsec 
every carebear ever wrote:bla bla bla but CODE. doesn't go to lowsec bla bla bla I remember when loyal would camp pyne with a handful of others to catch randoms I still try to imagine their reactions lol
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Posted - 2016.06.16 15:46:18 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Lan Wang wrote:code are crying a lot these days  They certainly are, they want to emulate their founder  Show me on the barge where His Holiness James 315 touched you  Actually I found it rather amusing that he was crying over can baiting... And the only holy thing about James315 is his vest, and Dom try not to use that child **** reference, its not very funny... EDIT: A little bird told me that the collateral scam is going to end with a collateral calculator which shows how far above the real value it is... I did not mention kids anywhere. I definitely hit a very sensitive nerve of yours though.
CODE. were can baiters in the beginning... but I guess you already knew that. That nerf had the same effect on him and other baiters than the recent watchlist changes had on mercs
Highsec is stagnant at this stage... just waiting for that final blow
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Posted - 2016.06.17 14:16:32 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:Oh we have always won regardless of unfavorable circumstances and will continue to win regardless of how hard butthurt carebears cry for more nerfs. by crying for buffs? Afaik CODE. never got any buffs, only nerfs so that highsec can become like Hello Kitty Online 
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Posted - 2016.06.17 15:16:23 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:Oh we have always won regardless of unfavorable circumstances and will continue to win regardless of how hard butthurt carebears cry for more nerfs. by crying for buffs? Afaik CODE. never got any buffs, only nerfs so that highsec can become like Hello Kitty Online  OK shall I start listing them: Destroyer damage buff - massive affect that one because CCP took an age to adjust the mining ships tanks. Bumping allowed by CCP aka the thread in C&P Bowhead created Fleet hanger in DST Wreck EHP buff, AG shrugged and said fair one that Ruling that Hyperdunking was allowed resulting in massive ganking campaign Tags in low sec to enable security status to be quickly changed to positive Skill injectors enabling gankers to create new gankers very quickly Citadel tethering enabling gankers to sit ready in space without being shot by faction police I am sure I missed some others, yes some of them have now been nerfed. Which you count as a nerf only. The change to structure EHP via the DCU II was not done due to ganking but for other reasons The Watchlist change was because of watch lists stopping major fleet fights And this change to bumping which is long overdue because you could effectively point someone with no consequences for hours is adjusting a stupid mechanic. At the end of the day all the OP has to do is have a third account for suicide pointers and he can still ransom as the point will re-set the timer, not our fault he is too fail to do that... Hyperdunking is a banale offense. Bumping got nerfed (or is getting nerfed) to 3 minutes. And the rest of your points affect all the player base. Citadels are in lowsec too, and there are more -10.0 toons down there than is HS as well
None of the other points were requested by CODE. members but hey... nice try lmao Arguments invalidated. GG no re
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Posted - 2016.06.17 15:42:19 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:Oh we have always won regardless of unfavorable circumstances and will continue to win regardless of how hard butthurt carebears cry for more nerfs. by crying for buffs? Afaik CODE. never got any buffs, only nerfs so that highsec can become like Hello Kitty Online  hasn't highsec always been hello kitty online?  A long time ago it was a little dangerous :P Now it's numb
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Posted - 2016.06.17 15:45:57 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote: Hyperdunking is a banale offense. Bumping got nerfed (or is getting nerfed) to 3 minutes. And the rest of your points affect all the player base. Citadels are in lowsec too, and there are more -10.0 toons down there than is HS as well
None of the other points were requested by CODE. members but hey... nice try lmao Arguments invalidated. GG no re
Oh my god that was a funny reply    Don't think I have the heart to pick that to pieces... Impress me with that epeen You should probably look at it directly, instead of looking at it in the mirror... Because objects in the mirror are smaller than they appear 
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Posted - 2016.06.17 17:01:05 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:tears more tears alot of tears even more tears
do you post stuff that's actually not tears about CODE. being better at making content than you? at this point I don't think anyone bothers reading your posts as they always end up in "grr CODE. they do better than me so I has to try and make them look bad" 
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Posted - 2016.06.17 17:05:44 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:tears more tears alot of tears even more tears
do you post stuff that's actually not tears about CODE. being better at making content than you? at this point I don't think anyone bothers reading your posts as they always end up in "grr CODE. they do better than me so I has to try and make them look bad"  I expected you to go full creepy cousin. Expect the unexpected  That's the only thing you can or can't expect from me
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:22:12 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
[07:01:06] Liek DarZ > We would prefer not havnig to demand the 10m, but GMs told us to. [07:01:10] Liek DarZ > We comply, of course [07:01:24] guigui lechat > GMs told you to ? [07:01:35] Polarchewbacca Wookie > careful the guy never lies [07:01:38] Liek DarZ > GMs back then asked us to demand some monetary gains in addition to just following our set of rules. So we ask for the low amount of 10m, stable for years now already. That should show we do not have money in mind really, right? [07:01:52] Liek DarZ > not me personally, but yes, James 315 was told back then. [07:01:56] Church Lady > Hmmm. That IS special [07:02:03] Liek DarZ > so he had to charge for his permits now [07:02:15] Church Lady > Did you even have permits before that? [07:02:19] guigui lechat > 10M is a lot for noobies [07:02:22] Liek DarZ > James 315 did [07:02:36] Liek DarZ > The Knights of the New Order followed later [07:02:50] Liek DarZ > And here we are.
Aren't chatlogs forbidden unless they're in the Pirate Story thread? With names omitted?
Quote:35. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
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Read the rules lmao
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Posted - 2016.06.18 23:58:45 -
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Dracvlad wrote:CODE is definately going downhill fast..., said every miner and whiny carebear since 2012
I think I got a bingo boys 
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Posted - 2016.06.19 20:24:56 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:Now that I've completely schooled Herzog in front of everyone, so much so that he abandoned his fallacious, blatantly false claims in favor of ad-hominim style attacks against me, I claim this as YET ANOTHER victory for the New Order, and take my leave with 1000 likes.
*Drops microphone* I was out all night. Why are you making a parody of yourself? Well everyone is still waiting for you to back up that big steaming pile of BS you plopped all over the thread. Have you filed that petition? Why are you afraid to just file a petition and ask a GM? You clearly need help understanding this game but refuse to ask the people who are the authority on these matters. Being Ignorant is excusable, but refusing to educate yourself is known as stupidity. Showing so much salt while making demands to support your own strawmen. I could bother with giving you more attention but im using a phone right now as my computer is a bit far away. I just came in to check on your hyper defensive meltdown for my own pleasure before i continue an adventurous and productive weekend. the simple fact that you post here is a victory for Galaxy Pig GG G.P., you won again by harvesting the tears of the Quote:plebs that give no damns 
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Posted - 2016.06.20 16:33:07 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: My God, you're still here
Herzie, drop the ball... let the adults talk 
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r
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